Obama Claims: “I Had No Contact With Blagojevich Over Vacated Senate Seat”

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There was a short news blurb about this. It obviously came from a press release. However, this may turn out to be Obama’s first “untruth” of his administration. Why would I say this? Read the following excerpt from the criminal complaint against Blagojevich:

107. On November 12, 2008, ROD BLAGOJEVICH talked with Advisor B. ROD BLAGOJEVICH discussed with Advisor B his idea for a 501(c)(4) organization. Advisor B stated that he likes the idea, but liked the Change to Win option better because, according to Advisor B, from the President-elect’s perspective, there would be fewer “fingerprints” on the President-elect’s involvement with Change to Win because Change to Win already has an existing stream of revenue and, therefore, “you won’t have stories in four years that they bought you off.” ROD BLAGOJEVICH said that he likes the 501(c)(4) idea because he knows it will be there in two years when he is no longer Governor, whereas Change to Win might not be.

Why would anyone be concerned about the President-elect’s “fingerprints” if there were no involvement to worry about? We need to know who Advisor B is and exactly how much Obama knew about this whole thing.

Further, David Alexrod gave an interview in which he was asked “who the Governor might pick to take Obama’s senate seat.” According to The Hill:

Despite Obama’s insistence that he has had no contact with Blagojevich about who might fill his open Senate seat, ABC News reported Tuesday that in late November, Obama senior adviser David Axelrod said he knew Obama had “talked to the governor and there are a whole range of names, many of which have surfaced, and I think he has a fondness for a lot of them.”

Clearly, Obama was in some sort of contact with Blagojevich. We must know those names and how deeply Obama was involved.

You can access the Fox News blurb on-line here:

Obama: I Had No Contact With Blagojevich Over Vacated Senate Seat
FoxNews.com
December 9, 2008

You can access the story from The Hill on-line here:

RNC: Obama’s statement on Blagojevich ‘insufficient’
Sam Youngman
The Hill
December 9, 2008

And the criminal complaint is available on-line here:

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA vs. ROD R. BLAGOJEVICH, and JOHN HARRIS
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
NORTHERN DISTRICT OF ILLINOIS, EASTERN DIVISION
December 2008

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9 Responses

  1. I don’t think Obama was “in some sort of contact with Blagojevich” as you put it because of his statement in the complaint.

    “113. Also on November 13, 2008, ROD BLAGOJEVICH talked with Advisor A. ROD BLAGOJEVICH said he wants the idea of the 501(c)(4) in President-elect Advisor’s head, but not in connection with the Senate appointment or the congressional seat. Advisor A asked whether the conversation about the 501(c)(4) with President-elect Advisor is connected with anything else. ROD BLAGOJEVICH replied that “it’s unsaid. It’s unsaid.”

    “114. Later on November 13, 2008, ROD BLAGOJEVICH spoke with Advisor A. ROD BLAGOJEVICH asked Advisor A to call Individual A and have Individual A pitch the idea of the 501(c)(4) to “[President-elect Advisor].” Advisor A said that, “while it’s not said this is a play to put in play other things.” ROD BLAGOJEVICH responded, “correct.” Advisor A asked if this is “because we think there’s still some life in [Senate Candidate 1] potentially?” ROD BLAGOJEVICH said, “not so much her, but possibly her. But others.”

    I think Blagojevich was trying to get his advisors A and B to get in connect with Obama and his team, but was finding no success.

    • Heavenly,

      Thank you for taking the time to read my blog.

      My assertion that Obama was “in some sort of contact with Blagojevich” was not based on the criminal complaint filed by Patrick Fitzgerald. It was based the comments made by David Axelrod to ABC News.

      Axelrod’s timeframe for Obama having talked with Blagojevich is some time in November, presumably after Election Day (the 4th). From the criminal complaint, the efforts to sell/auction the vacated Senate seat began in November on the day before Election Day (the 3rd). This does not mean that Obama was involved, but if Axelrod’s comments to ABC were truthful, he was most certainly in contact with the Illinois governor talking about possible replacements while the scandal was taking place.

  2. Well you don’t think Obama was involve than I don’t understand your statement here…”Clearly, Obama was in some sort of contact with Blagojevich. We must know those names and how deeply Obama was involved.”

    Also if Obama was talking to the Governor wouldn’t it have come out in this complaint like all the other stuff?

    • I don’t know how deep Obama’s involvement was. But Axelrod’s statement shows he was in contact with Blagojevich concerning who would take the vacated Senate seat. And there is the question of three Obama aids whose invovlvement is implicated by the criminal complaint.

      We need more information. We need to know who those three advisors are and exactly whose names Obama discussed with Blagojevich back in November.

  3. Where does it say that Obama aids were implicated in the complaint?

    Also who said that Obama discussed anyone’s name in Nov?

    Why are you adding things to the complaint that is not there?

    The U.S Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald said in his press conference that Obama and his people that there were NO allegations against them. These also no information in this complaint that points to Blagojevich was ever talked to Obama about the Senate seat.

    There are a lot of conversation in the complaint that Blagojevich had with is advisers (Advisors A &B) on how they would go about in discussing Obama’s Senate seat with Obama and what he (Blagojevich) could get out of it.

    Another thing you seem to be avoiding is what Blagojevich said about Obama and his team about the matter of the Senate seat …… ” Later in the conversation, ROD BLAGOJEVICH said he knows that the President-elect wants Senate Candidate 1 for the Senate seat but “they’re not willing to give me anything except appreciation. Fuck them.”

    That statement tells me that Obama and his people were not willing to give Blagojevich the time of day which of course pissed him off.

    Also if Obama did have a conversation (just a general one) with the Governor it wouldn’t have been unusual.

    • The criminal complaint refers to the aids. References begin in Section 90 of the criminal complaint. “Advisor A,” “Advisor B,” and “Sentate Candidate 1” are all mentioned as being advisors to the “President elect.” Unless Patrick Fitzgerald is lying in the affidavit, there was communication between these three and Blagojevich. We need to know the names of these three people.

      Also, David Axelrod said plainly that Obama discussed names with Bagojevich back in November. Why would Axelrod lie about this if such a lie implicates his boss? We need to know the names that they discussed.

  4. Sorry Advisors A& B are Blagojevich’s advisers NOT President-elect Obama’s advisors because if you look at my first comment I copied and pasted a section (114-pg 73)from the complaint where Blagojevich was talking to his Advisor A about talking to one of Obama’s adviser to get a deal going (which Obama and his people where not having any part of).

    Now just think about that. If Advisor A or B are Obama’s advisors then why would Blagojevich say this in the complaint…..“114. Later on November 13, 2008, ROD BLAGOJEVICH spoke with Advisor A. ROD BLAGOJEVICH asked Advisor A to call Individual A and have Individual A pitch the idea of the 501(c)(4) to “[President-elect Advisor].” if Advisor A is Obama’s advisor? See Advisor A are not Obama’s advisor, but is Blagojevich advisor.

    I think you are reading it wrong. All the taped conversations are with Blagojevich and HIS own advisors/people NOT with any of Obama’s people.

    Also Axelrod never said Obama discussed names with Blagojevich, but only talked with him (about what? we don’t know). It could have been about just general stuff because like I said before it wouldn’t have been unusual if he did talk to Blagojevich since Blagojevich is the Governor of Obama’s home state.

    And again ALL the taped conversations are with Blagojevich and HIS people NOT with Obama or his people or with any of the candidates running for the seat.

    All of Blagojevich taped conversations are speculations on what those people (Obama/his people and the candidates) would PROBABLY do to have the Senate seat.

  5. “if Advisor A is Obama’s advisor? See Advisor A are not Obama’s advisor, but is Blagojevich advisor.”

    Sorry I meant to say, “If Adivisor A is Obama’s advisor why would he need to go through another person to talk to Obama?
    See Advisor A and B are NOT Obama’s advisor, but they are Blagojevich’s advisers.”

  6. i’m hoping that Blagojevich will inspire Congress to finally grow a pair and uphold the American legal system (by putting this guy away for a long time)

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